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LeoJr wrote:You do know they shot down a whole squadron of Russian pilots back in '73, right?
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"there are no confirmed MiG-29 shootdowns as far as I know. ACIG is claiming a couple during some shadow-fighting between the Israelis and the Syrians, not but just shadowing."
There was far more than just shadowing going on. At least 2 MiG-29s of the Syrian AF were shot down over the Mediterranean Sea when they got to close to an Israeli electronic reconnaissance (transport size) aircraft. There has been four incidents between Syria and the Turkish AF or Israeli AF, this year!! The F-16s have been eating the MiG-29s for lunch for years.
Yes there is plenty of information to confirm information on kills against MiG-29A/Bs! Back in 2011, I copied a lot of information from ACIG and web pages –when they were on-line. F-15s alone have shot down nineteen MiG-29As & Bs. The bulk of the MiG-29s were shot down by the IAF. I do know on June 23, 1992 four Russian AF MiG-29s shot down four Moldovan MiG-29s! Mig-29As have not shot down one F-15, F-16, F/A-18 or, Su-27s.
You can go on-line and search for “MiG-29s aerial victories”
On the “Air Aces” website the war between Erithea and Ethiopia, the only planes the MiG-29 could shoot down were MiG-21s. Meanwhile the Su-27 were just killing the MiG-29 as easily as the F-15s.
While most of the ACIG pages and article no longer active, there are some Air Combat Information Group "ACMI" pages still on-line. A few couple of these are listed below; http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_196.shtml,
Here is the MiG-29's combat record as complete as I could find back as of 2011. It is an 11:29 kill ratio, that is 11 kills confirmed for the MiG-29s. Now the MiG-29 have shot down by most other fourth generation fighters. This includes the F-15s, F-16s, F/A-18Cs and, the Su-27s!! Now, among some of those eleven kills are a Mig-29UB shot down a Cessna 337 (near Cuba), four RuAF MiG.-29Cs killed four MiG.-29As of the Moldova AF, a MiG.-29C used a R-73 Missile to kill a Russian Yak-40 (business jet) fratricide! Plus forced down two B-747 airliners!
The MiG-29 is designed well but, the problem with the MiG-29 is, the poor program which supports the MiG-29s!! Lack of proficient pilot training, maintenance and, up-dated equipment. The MiG-29 should have a kill ratio that even. Finally, there is no reason the MiG-29 should have a negative kill ratio of 11 kills and 29 losses, not counting this year!
NOTE- Capt. Aster Tolossa fighting for Ethiopia's AF first woman pilot to shoot down in a Su-27S fighter an Eritrean AF MiG-29! THIS IS CONFIRMED on several web pages of the ACMI and other aviation related web pages.
As for F-15’s kill ratio, I found this;
IAF _____________ 63
USAF 1st PGW ___ 34 (This includes two shared kill)
Over the Balkans __ 4 (All MiG-29s)
Saudi AF ________ 4
Remember, all Israeli AF claims occur over other countries, Lebanon, Syria, etc. The press and civilians get to the crash sites before the Syrian military!
One great source for US aerial victories since the end of the Viet Nam war is the book, "Debrief" by Craig Brown. Even if you don’t like US fighters, this shows how complex aerial combat in the modern missile ages. Counter measures with missiles and how the attacks proceed and how complex it gets after the merge.
The Israeli AF has got guts, attacking some S-300 missiles (in the last year) when they were being transported and, another attack by F-15Is on a Syrian warehouse. Each attack destroyed all the missiles.
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