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godanov	American Defence changes	Lead	[-]
Posts: 304 (Tue, 7-Apr-09 02:53:26) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	Tags : None The American Secretary of Defense Gates, announced today the end to the F-22, C-17, and the CSAR is likely dead. A 2 billion $US increase in UAVs. He canceled the VF-71 6.5 billion $US presidential helicopter program for 23 new presidential helicopters. An replacement effort will restart in 2011. purchase of 31 F/A-18s US Government will invest more money in the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) program, increasing the total budget for the program to $11.2 billion, up from $6.8 billion. 513 F-35s will be manufactured over the next five years and 2,443 over the course of the program KC-X will tender in the summer Last Edited By: godanov Wed, 8-Apr-09 16:48:53. Edited 1 time.
LeoJr		#1	[-]
Posts: 8788 (Tue, 7-Apr-09 19:33:46) Mod Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	Well, that completes the news of the other topic proclaiming the F-22 dead. Well, at least they keep their 187 and will have a bunch more F-35s to attempt to make the gap.
MOSHEDAYAN		#2	[-]
Posts: 264 (Thu, 18-Jun-09 07:01:52) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	Recession+ too (two) many wars spoil the airforce
LeoJr		#3	[-]
Posts: 8883 (Thu, 18-Jun-09 07:54:42) Mod Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	Meh.
SPANKYamerican		#4	[-]
Posts: 6500 (Thu, 18-Jun-09 09:08:17) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	the f-22 has been so long coming that it's not as special as it used to be. it's a great shame though. it's without a doubt the most capable fighter aircraft in the world. a squadron of these can send a massive message to someone you don't like "For those whos dreams were taken. Here are a few nightmares. This is gonna shine like a diamond in a goat's ass."
sukhoiman	....	#5	[-]
Posts: 6581 (Thu, 18-Jun-09 09:48:15) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	Hang on....so this means that even the limited F-22 production is not going to take place? That's a bunch of bollocks. ------------------------------------- "Well, I think that The US (superpower) should heavily consider what the UN says, because I think It would be good in many situations to listen to the UN." - Shakobe Ver.1.0
SPANKYamerican		#6	[-]
Posts: 6502 (Thu, 18-Jun-09 11:02:14) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	leo mentioned that we are getting 187 f-22's 2443 f-35s will be produced. this number, i assume includes all our partners in the program. so the USAF will without a doubt have a very formidable fighter force. one that will be un-matched globally. we can only assume that billions are being saved for upcoming UCAV projects that will come online and fill a large proportion of our force around the time we plan on retiring...maybe before? "For those whos dreams were taken. Here are a few nightmares. This is gonna shine like a diamond in a goat's ass."
sukhoiman	....	#7	[-]
Posts: 6583 (Fri, 19-Jun-09 05:03:19) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	ah....that makes sense. 187....its still a formidable number. ------------------------------------- "Well, I think that The US (superpower) should heavily consider what the UN says, because I think It would be good in many situations to listen to the UN." - Shakobe Ver.1.0
SPANKYamerican		#8	[-]
Posts: 6504 (Fri, 19-Jun-09 09:09:48) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	it's not that many. think of the USA in square miles. then consider it's commitments in the pacific and elsewhere abroad. all the f-35s should fill the gap. they just won't get there as quickly...or as high "For those whos dreams were taken. Here are a few nightmares. This is gonna shine like a diamond in a goat's ass."
sukhoiman	...	#9	[-]
Posts: 6585 (Sat, 20-Jun-09 10:26:58) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	but they'll do it better than most other birds out there..... As for the square mileage.....lets remember that there are also "only" about 200 strike eagles in operation with the USAF. These also have commitments abroad. ------------------------------------- "Well, I think that The US (superpower) should heavily consider what the UN says, because I think It would be good in many situations to listen to the UN." - Shakobe Ver.1.0
NZ CHARIZARD		#10	[-]
Posts: 1757 (Tue, 30-Jun-09 20:00:01) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	The 2448 f-35s mentioned represent the total planned US purchase, with 480 going to the navy, 340 going to the USMC and the remaining 1628 aircraft going to the USAF. That's the planned total though.
richard	re	#11	[-]
Posts: 3084 (Mon, 6-Jul-09 14:55:46) Local user Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	The crackpots claim there is no need for the F-22. Um yes there is. To replace those ageing F-15's. Cant hang on to them forever.
LeoJr		#12	[-]
Posts: 8903 (Mon, 6-Jul-09 17:32:50) Mod Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	Oh, I'm sure the PoC F-35 is well capable of replacing the F-15. Right.
golightning		#13	[-]
Posts: 2 (Thu, 27-Aug-09 13:33:41) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	The F-35 is a good plane, but it can't match the F-22 in air-to-air. F-35s are good because they're VTOLs and are radar invisible. BUT they're also meant for ground-attack. As said on fighter-planes.com: "USAF-Multi-role aircraft (primarily air-to-ground) to replace F-16 and A-10 and to complement F-22". This is a designated ground attack jet, not a replacement for the F-15.
LeoJr		#14	[-]
Posts: 8951 (Thu, 27-Aug-09 22:01:22) Mod Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	Pretty much. What we're looking at here is a significant decrease in the US armed forces ability to achieve and maintain air superiority in the decades to come, essentially nullifying the superiority enjoyed by them in the F-15 era back to being on technological par with the enemy along the lines of the F-4 era. Though there will still be Raptors around, with these numbers it'll hardly be enough to accomplish much more than point operations.

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