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The best part of Indian phobia against Pakistan is ... whatever Pakistan seeks India is running after it to wrangle it .. earlier there was talk about Grippen .. we see India running over, PAF talked with Mirage 2000-5 .. India started courting Dassault, just lately PAF had talks on F-16 .. India went ahead .. I suppose now the USA knows the fact too and went ahead in signing the F-16 deal with PAF while the advance jet requisition is still under way !


Hmmm...yeah seeing how US is pushing through legislation to prevent any military supplies to Pakistan if Pakistan doesn't do more to act against the taliban.....I think the next few years will be quite interesting....don't you?

Don't worry must7, we have a much larger pool of rese4rves to delve into to make sure that your western military sources are as small as possible. Just stick with China and everyone's happy...ok?



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Now what I don't understand is that with the almighty SU-30mki .. as per Indian writers & anaylst ripped through US F-16's & F-15's why all this worry !


Most of the reports were in infact american. They wanted more funding for their F-22 program by showing the magically superior performance of the SU-30 MKI.

Nice try must, nice try.



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He has totally forgotten the main player behind this happening ...


Wait a minute....I thought that the JF-17 is going to use the RD-93 and not the RD-33 of the Mig 29? Anyways I agree that Russo - Indian cooperation is the reason behind Russia giving the finger to China over engines to Pakistan.

Go cry somewhere else. Especially in light of the supposed "defection" of Russia to the China/Paksitan camp after the supposed "fallout" between India and Russia according to the brilliant defence forum: PDF.

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thanks to last sanctions Pakistan become a missile force to reckon with ! No wonder today US is obliged or let's be nice ready, to give to F-16 Block 52 with missiles on the first place ! Only time will tell the outcome of the present set back .. (if there is one on the first place !).


Yeah ok! With the democrats almost certain to come into power in the next few years....and legislation coming right around the corner equating even more cooperation from Pakistan (read handing over soveriengty) regarding the Taliban....or no military goodies.....(and this legislation was started by the democrats mind you).......whatever floats your bubble buddy!

Let's see:

- First Pakistan wasn't offered any nuclear deal with the US
- Pakistan was refused again after it begged a few times
- US throws an F-16 deal, orion deal and BVR deal as well to keep things cool with pakistan.....all the time knowing that they can be used as weapons against pakistan should the need arise
- Pakistan starts sulking and then starts an "engagement peace" policy with the taliban and alqaeda forces on its border
- Pakistan recently was singled out by Negpronte, several US senators and US intelligence agencies as allowing the Taliban to resurface strongly and not acting against their forces
- US is coming up with new legislation that will neuter all military supplies to pakistan unless pakistan cooperates in finishing off the Taliban and their al qaeda friends inside pakistan.
- Pakistan denies the charges.....just like they've always denied similar charges by India and Afghanistan over the years. Pakistani attitude is to ignore and pretend it doesn't exist. Then when the reality comes knocking around the corner, they go spastic and murderous....which promptly leads to them getting crushed and defeated. Just look at 1971. The muhamamdjihad mentality has been present in one corner of the world for a very long time....infact it is its very identity. This is the problem......

- Democrats will come to power and start anti - Pakistan policies very soon.....and promptly start sanctions and Pakistan will kiss goodbye to any dreams it once had of an "economic" resurgence.


Only way out is to listen to the americans and do as your told must7, since your leadership loves the doublegame.....and that kind of thing just doesn't fly anymore when policies become more accountable back in the States.

Remeber a few years ago, you were trumpeting that nothing....NOTHING can ever go wrong between US and Pakistan. Put on your seat belts and enjoy the ride of the next few years......and learn that you make very poor predictions and like your fellow countrymen....you forget the lessons of the past all too soon.