"Please dont make me post links from american news sites, it will only make you look more stupid."

And that's your problem. I don't want to sound like a member of the VRWC, but I get my news from a variety of sources...standard American media, "Faux" News, blogs from all over the world, etc etc., and a lot of stuff I get from the mainstream media is contradicted by stuff I get from everywhere else. Who am I going to believe, the people who are there, on the ground interacting with the Iraqis every day, or the people who don't leave the Green Zone and think the M249 SAW is a "very heavy machine gun which has a very heavy trigger. It's not easy to fire, and in fact it might be quite understandable that anyone - even someone with weapons experience - wasn't familiar with this particular weapon might have trouble firing off more than one shot at a time."

(For those of you who need clarification, the SAW is a very light machine gun, capable of being operated by one person, (unlike the M240 or its predecessor in the "light machine gun" role, the M60)...and it isn't capable of firing in semi-automatic mode....not trying to change the subject, just showing how "accurate" the media is when it comes to military matters.)


That's what 120,000 lb. of thrust looks like.